HELL – Separating Biblical Fact from Fantasy & Myth

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Finding the Ancient Path

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Chapter 1: Fairy tales about hell

amen amen thankk you John so here we are hell fairy tales versus the Bible and

spoiler alert you probably believe the fairy tales or at least some of them and uh I think all of us do or have at one

point in time believed the fairy tales about hell this is kind of the image

that pops into people’s minds when they think about hell we’re going to look at another one uh later on in the lesson but this place

of you know fire and torment and smoke and Hell is What kind of what we what we think of and it’s been fostered since

childhood you know I remember being a kid and watching Looney Tunes and seeing images like this you know where

Sylvester the cat gets thrown down to Hell and a big Bulldog is the devil and um

and you know we we grew up watching this kind of stuff and and having this idea of a

dungeoness uh Cavern somewhere in the bowels of Earth where the Damned are put into slavery for eternity and of course

it continues you know with Comics that we see you know like the far side I love far side and here says oh man the

coffee’s cold they thought of everything so again again we we see this

idea of of a dungeon cavernous place of fire and demons

cracken whips and uh you know the Lost down there living in eternity and I

think my favorite um my favorite version of that is Disney’s Hades I’m not sure if you guys have seen

this but I guess it was uh Hercules yes thank you Hercules it was the Hercules you

know cartoon or or or show and this guy played uh played Hades and I think he did such such a masterful job but that’s

my favorite version of it ironically this individual Hades the Greek god of

the underworld is is is where a lot of people get their uh ideas of

Hell uh it comes from Greek mysticism more than it does the B

and we’re going to see that here in a moment all right so fairy tales from our childhood we’ve been taught by our

Chapter 2: Luke 16 and parables

parents teachers Sunday school instructors church and culture that hell is a place of Torment for Sinners after

death it’s depicted as a realm of Eternal Flame and unending pain with no hope of escape this is believed to be the

dwelling place of Satan complete with his Pitchfork and demons reserved for murderers rapists and disobedient

children much like our concept of Heaven is partly shaped by Luke 16 our understanding of Hell also originates

from this passage and I put it up there again so that we could just briefly take a look at it uh last week in this verse

we looked at uh all the parts of this verse that made us think about heaven this week we’ll look at all the all the

verses that made us think about hell um they’re highlighted in yellow where the

rich man was in torment in Hades and again in the second paragraph

being tormented in this flame and in the third paragraph unless they come to this place

of Torment uh so we determined you know last week that in the previous lesson on

Heaven that we determined that this cannot be a literal description but rather a parable due to the fact

that scripture does not support what is being said here anywhere else nowhere else do we see Abraham’s

bosom nowhere else do we see that Abraham is actually there waiting for you uh nowhere do we see that Angels

carry us off to heaven or carry us off to Hell there’s so many things about this passage that cannot be supported

anywhere else in scripture and you know if you recall we determined that the the reason for this Parable was for Yeshua

uh to tell us the importance of listening to Moses and the

prophets or the word of God that’s what was the word of God for them at that time they didn’t have the New Testament

as we know they didn’t have Paul’s writings or the gospels they had the Torah the prophets and the writings or

the Tanakh and the point of the lesson was to pay attention to it and Yeshua used I

think intentionally used this idea this Greek idea of Hell to make a

Chapter 3: Biblical words for hell

point so words of damnation I think it’s important for us to know the difference throughout scripture of all the words

that we hear about damnation or about hell the word hell it’s

self has its origins in the Old English hell which is related to similar words in in other Germanic languages all

stemming from the protog Germanic Halo the underlying Proto Indian

European root Kel means to cover or to conceal reflecting the concept of an

underworld or hidden place over time Christian Christian theology shaped the terms meaning to to represent a place of

Eternal punishment this understanding was influenced by various religious texts and teachings including

interpretations of the Hebrew Bibles shol in the New Testament gehenna in the Book of

Revelation Lake of Fire and those are just three that I want to look at to help us understand how to read this in

our Bibles when we’re reading our Bibles so first is sh or grave that’s another

word for grave in the Bible a Hebrew term used to describe the Abode of the Dead a place of Darkness to which the

all the dead go both righteous and wicked it’s often translated as Grave pit or hell and that’s what we see in

psalm 16 for you will not leave my soul in shol nor will you allow your Holy One

to seek corruption now that that one verse right there Psalm 16:10 uh supports our discussion of last

week about Soul sleep uh as much as I don’t like that

term it is a a a a an accurate description of what happens in the grave

and here David is saying in psalm 16 you’re not going to leave my soul there you’re not going to leave my soul in the

grave gehenna is a term derived from the

Hebrew gome or Valley hom of a hom it’s an actual place a place outside Jerusalem associated with the burning of

refuge and later a symbol of ultimate punishment and fiery destruction gehenna is used in the New Testament to refer to

the final place of punishment for the wicked so gehenna uh is an actual place outside Jerusalem

where all things would continually burn you know where I live here in in Texas there’s a dump when I grew up in Arizona

there was a dump outside of town and we used to take all of our stuff out there all the time and and

dump it in the dump and mo in modern times they don’t burn it they just bury

it right they take all the the trash and they stick it into the Earth and they bury it with soil and then it’s that

stuff just composts over time well in ancient times they didn’t bury it they

piled it up outside of town and burned it and because there was all different kinds of materials and

combustibles in The Refuge it would literally be burning all the time uh sometimes it would be visible

fire sometimes it would be smolder but this place gehenna was a place that was

constantly on fire and so it became as it says there this this uh depiction if

you will of uh end times destination for the wicked and we see

that in Matthew 10 but rather fear Him who was able to destroy both soul and body in

gehenna there’s another word here that we just we already looked at briefly in Luke 16

Hades Hades is the Greek equivalent to scha so remember scha was the

Chapter 4: Tartarus and fallen angels

grave in Greek Hades is the Greek equivalent of that word used in the New Testament to describe the Abode of the

Dead like we see again Luke 16 and being in torment in Hades now there is a

question that we have to ask when we read this in Luke

16 why did Yeshua use the word Hades a Greek word here when in other places he

used scha and gehenna anybody want to take a stab at

answering that was he speaking to the Greeks yeah there’s two there’s two

reasons why was that Joanne yes oh hi Joe and Glenn glad you

made it uh so yes because this entire exchange opens up in Luke

15:1 where the Bible says then all the tax collectors and sinners Drew near to hear him the first reason is they were

he was speaking to Greeks and he was trying to make a point to their Greek

understanding however the second point and I think is the more plausible Point Luke himself was a

Greek and so when you see the word Hades uh in in your Bible you have to

keep those two things in consideration who’s the author I don’t think Yeshua

used the term Hades I think Luke wrote the term

Hades because uh he’s himself is Greek tardus some of us have heard this

word borrowed from Greek mythology tardus is a deep Abyss used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked

it’s mentioned once in the New Testament in reference to a place where fallen angels are kept until judgment now

without getting into all of this we know this passage in second Peter 2 for if God did not spare

the Angels who sinned but cast them down to tardus and delivered them into chains of

Darkness to be reserved for judgment is this hell the the translation uses the word

Chapter 5: Lake of Fire and Tophet

hell um but we have to ask ourselves what is this well if you recall and

maybe you don’t maybe you’ve not watched my teaching on the Nephilim but there were a second set of

Angels in Genesis 6 who left their Abode their position as uh as Watchers to mingle

with human women and because of that great sin they were put into this

pit this place called tardus in Chains until judgment they are there

now and they will be there until judgment and so it’s a it’s it’s a place reserved for

them and not Humanity where is it don’t know is it in the bowels of the earth

maybe no one knows so is tardus hell as you and I have grown up

thinking about it no it’s not it’s a it’s a it is a a the dungeon of Torment but it’s reserved for uh those those

angels then we see toet tophet is a term that refers to a place in the valley of Hom OR gay hen

near Jerusalem the name tophet means shame and it’s be it become notorious for the practice of child

sacrifice particularly to the God mole now who is Molech mooch is

obviously the same God as B PA or Satan they’re all or Nimrod they they’re all one and the

same uh but there was a place that was devoted to the sacrificing of children in that same area as gehenna we see it

in Second Kings 23 and he defiled toet which is in the Valley of the son of hom that no man

might make his son or daughter pass through the fire to Molech okay so here so far we have five

words and here’s the sixth the Lake of Fire that’s something that we’re all very familiar with if not with the other

five a term used in The Book of Revelation to describe the final place of punishment for the Devil the Beast

the false prophet and the wicked it’s depicted as a place of Eternal fire and

brimstone fire and brimstone will be key in understanding this study

when we see its usage in Revelation 20 then death and Hades or death and the

grave were cast into the Lake of Fire this is the second death and anyone not found written in the Book of Life was

cast into the Lake of Fire so here we have six words of damnation that we read about in our

Bible from time to time and I think it’s important for us to understand the difference are they all the same place

no they’re not all the same place but it’s important for us to know what they

Chapter 6: Fire and brimstone origin

mean fire and brimstone see on the screen there an image of Yeshua the

coming Yeshua keep that image in mind as we go through this Genesis 19:24 then the Lord reigned

Brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from the Lord out of the heavens this is the first time that we

see fire and brimstone actually show up in the Bible and it just happens to be Sodom and Gomorrah something that we

looked at in great detail some weeks ago but this fire in Brimstone had a source

it didn’t just appear over Sodom and Gomorrah and rain down the Bible says that this fire in

Brimstone came from the Lord out of the heaven s well what could that mean we’re going to we’re going to try and figure

that out Jude chapter 1 so also Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring towns

since they indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire in a way similar to these angels are now

displayed as an example by suffering the punishment of Eternal fire Okay the

reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah the way he did other than choosing some

other way he could have had it raided by Bandits he could have had it flooded he could have had a tornado blow through it

and destroy it no there was a reason why he did what he did with Sodom and Gomorrah Sodom and Gomorrah obviously is

a type for what the world will become by the time Yeshua returns solom and

Gomorrah was a very Wicked place where there was no no rules No Boundaries uh there was no morals no

moral compass everything was possible any desire you wanted to have fulfilled was

fulfilled it was a Despicable place and this discipline of fire and

brimstone is now as Jude says an example that’s the

example of what’s going going to happen with the punishment of Eternal fire in the

future but again we keep seeing this Brimstone and fire this eternal Fire

coming from the Lord and that’s what I want to explore in this lesson so Sodom and Gomorrah is the example of what the

future Eternal fire will be like and we have to ask where does this eternal fire where does this punishment of Fire

where does this Brimstone and Fire come from again we’re asking the question is

it a place an ethereal place or an actual place in the bowels of the earth that is

constantly burning that is a dungeon for the lost that is always on fire that souls

are down there eternally burning with the devil and his Pitchfork and the demons causing

Havoc is that what this eternal punishment of fire is is that what the

brimstone and fire is where where does this fire come from or is it something else and I think we’re going to see that

it’s something else Isaiah 30:33 for toefit was established of old yes for the king

Chapter 7: God is a consuming fire

Molech it is prepared the breath of the Lord like a stream of

Brimstone Kindles it okay so

toit is that place outside the valley by the valley of

hom uh where the garbage is being burnt where the children were sacrificed to their worship of Molech and the Bible

here says the breath of the Lord Kindles that fire so that’s an interesting thing that

we have to keep in mind going forward Exodus 19 we know this when the

Lord descended on Mount Si his presence the mountain was completely in Smoke

because the Lord descended upon it in fire okay so we’re getting closer to

understanding what the actual hell is going to be by looking at some of these

verses the the brimstone itself the the fire itself is God’s breath and when he

descended on Mount Si he descended in fire you see it again in Exodus 2 the

angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of the Bush

now this was when Moses talked to Jehovah at the burning bush but even then he revealed himself

as fire so it’s what we have to understand

is that he is a consuming fire our God is a consuming fire and we’ve all heard that

phrase um many of us haven’t stopped to ponder exactly what it means besides just some allegorical statement about

God but the fact remains that he his presence is a consuming fire Exodus

24:17 the sight of the glory of the Lord was like a consuming fire on the top of the mountain in the eyes of the children

of Israel so it appeared to the children of Israel when God was there on Mount Si it

looked like the mountain was being consumed now I’m I’m not sure how many of you have actually seen a

wildfire or a mountain that really is being consumed by fire but it’s a scary

sight and here in the eyes of the children of Israel it appeared that Mount Si was being consumed by fire

simply because of God’s presence Ezekiel 1 427 then I looked and behold a whirlwind was

coming out of the North a great cloud with Raging Fire

engulf Amber out of the midst of the fire also from the appearance of his waist and upward I saw as it were the

color of amber with the appearance of fire all around it and from the appearance of his waist and downward I

saw as it were the appearance of fire with brightness all around what are we looking at here this is ezekiel’s vision

of the almighty and as he looked at this image

all he can see is fire above the waist and fire below the waist I find it

interesting that he sees a waste at all if there’s nothing but fire above it and below it but he obviously saw a

figure of raging engulfing

fire Daniel 7 verse 9 I watched till Thrones were put in place and the Ancient of Days was seated

this is Daniel’s vision of end times His Garment was white as snow and the hair of his head was like pure wool

his throne was a fiery flame its Wheels a burning

fire Revelation 1 this is John and his vision then I turned to see the voice

that spoke with me his head and hair were like white wool as white as snow and his eyes like

a flame of fire and his countenance was like the sun shining in its

strength any of you ever directly looked into the sun you you can’t do it for more than a

moment the second you turn your gaze to the sun you your body almost has a a a

reaction that you can’t control it’s kind of like sticking your hand into a flame your body has an instant reaction

to remove it to pull it back it can’t handle it it’s the same way with looking up at the sun we look but we can’t we

have to turn away immediately because of that brightness and here both Daniel and and John are sharing a very similar

experience of what it was like to see the almighty God

which is striking which is weird because this is an image I pulled off the internet this is the uh what’s this

thing called from Lord of the Rings it’s a it’s a ball Rock it’s a ball Rock and there’s an image in in The Lord of the

Rings trilogy where the wizard faces this demon of the underworld well I pick this picture

because this is the depiction that we so often associate with

Satan that he is this fiery dragon and the fire that people are going to be dealing with in the end

times is his fire is is his Raging Fire when in reality based on the

scriptures that we’ve already looked at it’s the exact

opposite it’s it’s not Satan’s fire it’s not his fire it’s God’s fire each of

those visions that we just read along with everything as a description of him

God all include words like fire flame lightning and the presence of the

sun itself so Satan is not the one who’s flaming in

Chapter 8: The Lake of Fire logisitics

fire Yeshua is the one who’s flaming in fire Daniel 10 says a river of fire was

streaming forth and proceeding from his presence what does this mean well in in a in a few more slides

here we’re going to be talking more about this Lake of Fire and when I read about the Lake of

Fire my mind I I have to try I have to ask okay what’s the logistics of

this um is it is it an actual Lake and if there’s an actual Lake

where’s where is it going to be is it going to be in the afterlife when all is done when yeshua’s reigned for a

thousand years and he’s done away with all of his enemies and the new Earth and the new Heavens is here and we’re in

Paradise what’s the logistics of this Lake of Fire going to be is are going to be a place like that in the new Earth or

in the New Jerusalem is that the case or is it something else and I’m open to either

one of the possibilities here but let me explain this the second possibility when I read Daniel 10:7 I

try to Envision this and the only way that I can think of what this might look like have you

ever seen a bride in her bridal gown with a gown that has

this gargantuan tail this beautiful flowing gargantuan tail that stretches out 10 12 15

feet or a king or a queen who has that same flowing robe where the robe just

flows out from behind them this is what I this is what I Envision when Dan Daniel says that this

fire was streaming forth and proceeding from his presence be because of his presence you

look at that picture there that I’m I’m showing on the screen there was just this Lake like a bridal

gown could appear to be a lake proceeding from her there was this river

or lake of fire proceeding from his presence now I’m painting that picture

on purpose for you guys to understand where I’m going with this ultimately

so it’s important for us to understand that the fire that we all read about have read

about especially as it pertains to end times is

his and not Satan’s and it’s easier for us to ask who is the

Eternal fire rather than to ask what is the Eternal or Eternal fire and we’re

going to see that the Eternal fire isn’t isn’t something that comes

with Satan it isn’t something that God Sparks in the center of the earth the Eternal fire is

actually his fire because he is the only true Eternal one

and so his fire is the Eternal fire so it’s not being removed from

Chapter 9: Destruction from His presence

God’s presence that causes the burning it is because of the presence of

God that all things burn that All Things become

hell to put it in vernacular that we understand Isaiah

33 who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire who among us shall dwell

with the Everlasting burnings and of course the answer to that question is nobody well I shouldn’t say

that if when we are resurrected we resurrect with our new bodies as we discussed last week then we

will be able to withstand the fire but unless we have our new glorified bodies the answer to

this question is nobody nobody can dwell amongst that fire second Peter 3 the day

of the Lord which is what the coming of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens will pass

away with a great noise and the elements will melt with fervent heat both the earth and the works that are in it will

be burned up why is it burning up why are are the mountains melting with fervent heat it

is because Yeshua having rolled the heavens away has stepped into our

reality we’ve talked many times about the fact that we are not compatible with the presence of

God no more than we are compatible with a nuclear reactor we just can’t stand and nothing

can stand by the way not just humans but reality itself that’s why the physical things like the Earth the trees and

everything in it will be burned up at his arrival Isaiah 66 for behold the Lord

will come with fire and with his chariots like a whirlwind to render his anger with Fury and his

rebuke with what with flames of fire for by fire and by his sword the Lord will

judge All Flesh and we’re going to see what that looks like here in a moment and the slain of the Lord shall be many

what does it mean to be judged by fire well we’re going to see that the veil

that separates our Dimension from yahovah will be rolled away at his coming and Humanity will will be exposed

to his fire and we and corrupted Earth as I said are not

compatible with his presence his presence will literally melt the elements and the mountains Psalm

97 a fire goes before him and burns up his enemies around round about his Lightnings light the world the

Earth sees and trembles the mountains melt like Wax at the presence of the

Lord at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth Micah 1 for behold the Lord

is coming out of his place he will come down and tread on the high places of the Earth the mountains will melt under him

and The Valleys will split like Wax before the fire like Waters poured down a steep

Place Psalm 21 your hand will find all your enemies your right hand will find those who hate

you you shall make them as a fiery oven in the time of your anger that’s the

second coming the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath and the fire shall devour

them thew vers 10 for if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth there no longer

remains a sacrifice for sins but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery

indignation which will devour the adversaries so over and over and over again we see that is because of the

presence of the Lord and his return that all of these things happen have any of you seen the movie

Independence Day uh with Will Smith if you recall if you saw that

movie there was a part in the movie when the ship had hovered over Washington DC and finally open fire for the first time

it blew down this this Flame or this beam into the White House and it exploded and then it just created this

conflagration of of fire that just spread and it just kept spreading and

kept spreading almost like it had it it wasn’t going to stop it just wiped out a

100 square miles of just you know Earth and everything that that’s very much so what it’s going to be like when Yeshua

touches down uh the the mountains literally will M uh will will melt like

Wax and his enemies will literally be Dev devoured by fire so it’s a pretty

graphic depiction of the return of the Lord here in terms of fire and I think what we’re

going to see is all these things that traditionally we have attributed to

hell are actually biblically attributed to to the presence of the

Chapter 10: Refining fire and judgment

Lord seasoned with fire all the stuff I just showed you looks pretty scary but

the truth of the matter is this fire that’s coming none of us will

escape Malachi 3 says but who can endure the day of his coming and who can stand when he appears

for he is like a refin refers fire so that’s an interesting word choice there used by

Malachi that this fire is a refiner fire it’s going to do something it’s going to

accomplish something it’s going to prove something when he returns Mark 9 says

everyone will be seasoned with fire again another interesting choice of

words by Mark that seems to be in line with what Malachi said so this fire

that’s coming none of us will be able to escape but we’re going to see that it’s got a purpose Isaiah

66 for behold the Lord will come with fire and with his chariots like a whirlwind to render his anger with Fury

and his rebuke with flames of fire for by fire and by his sword the Lord will

judge All Flesh so again a verse we looked at earlier Fire’s got something to do with

judgment 1 Corinthians 3 if anyone Builds on this foundation with gold silver precious stones wood

hay straw each one’s work will become clear for the day will declare

it because it will be what revealed faled by

fire and the fire will test each man’s work of what sort it is if anyone’s work

which he has built on it do endures he will receive a reward if anyone’s work is burned he will suffer loss but he

himself will be saved yet as through fire so here Paul is trying to tell us

that the fire of the Lord is going to accomplish something it’s going to reveal what’s

what amongst God’s people how did you build it’s going to

test each man’s work 2 Thessalonians

1 when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire taking Vengeance on those who do

not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ these shall be punished with Everlasting

destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power when he comes in that day now that word

from is not the best usage of uh

translation uh the word is APO or Ara so and it basically means because of or by

virtue of the presence of the Lord so it really should say in the in the box

below these shall be punished with Everlasting destruction because of the presence of

the Lord and because of the glory of his power when he comes in that

day so these people who are going to face Eternal

destruction it’s going to happen as the result of his

presence not because they were cast into some

dungeon we are going to see that people are cast into the Lake of Fire but that’s different that’s

different than this traditional view of

Hell imagine the Lake of Fire being the Gown of the Lord that proceeds from

among him okay they are punished because of the presence of the Lord and that

Everlasting destruction I think is more of a description of

Yeshua then I do do believe that it’s a description of um time

meaning as long as Yeshua is around there is destruction it’s Eternal it’s Everlasting because nothing can stand in

his presence right and so train with me here if you can I’m

trying to provide what I believe to be a a Biblical description of what we have always

thought of as hell being this destination for

Sinners so we see that it’s his fire that we will be tested if we have built with precious stones we will

survive the furnace of his fire if not we will suffer loss and many will simply not stand but we have to

explore this Everlasting destruction I touched on it a moment ago a little bit but we have to ask the

question is there going to be Eternal Hellfire for every lost

soul Eternal damnation and for

whom this again is the immediate image image that pops into people’s head when they think about hell I told you earlier

on that I would show you a second depiction of that image this is it this image of a devil with a

pitchfork tormenting people for eternity I’ve already shown that this is

more of a Greek idea than it is a Biblical idea so

Chapter 11: Death versus torment

we’re going to look here at the moment for the difference between a traditional hell as we have come to know

it or the lake of fire Death By Fire versus torment by

fire there’s a difference in the Bible and I think this is going to really help you

understand um this topic a little bit better we see verses like Matthew 5:22

throughout scripture you call your brother a fool in danger of Hellfire Matthew 13 angels will come forth

separate the wicked cast them into the furnace of fire Mark n9ine better for you to enter into life maimed rather

than having two hands to go to hell and into the fire that shall never be quenched Matthew

25:41 also say to those days on the left hand depart from me you cursed into the Everlasting fire prepared for the devil

and his angels so these these verses like the ones we’ve seen before tells us

that there’s a destination event for the Unfaithful and those who never cared

about Yeshua fire furnace flame

destruction but is this event Eternal in nature for

all of the above of or just some is it an

everlasting Hellfire for all who hate Yeshua and if I were to ask you that

question right now I would say the BK of you if not all of you would would answer

to that that question in the affirmative yes everyone who doesn’t love God or

serves Satan is going to be in this eternal Everlasting Hellfire

forever and I think what we’re going to see right here and right now is that’s almost

true but not entirely true forever and ever here we see in Revelation

20 the devil who deceived them the devil Satan aatan and liil

hey liil was cast into the Lake of Fire again what is this

Lake well I personally think it’s the result of God’s

presence was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the Beast was cast

and the false prophet was cast and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever okay so here we

see in Revelation 20 this forever and ever business and who’s

there Satan the Antichrist the false prophet and

remember we looked at the verse earlier that this is the place

prepared for the devil and his angels okay

this place this Lake of Fire is prepared for Satan and his angels

so as John says in Revelation 20 that’s who he sees there the devil the Antichrist false

prophets and his his angels where they will be tormented forever and ever okay

but just a few verses later John talks about the great white

Throne what is the great white Throne well let me briefly explain it to you in the way of a

timeline when Yeshua Returns the dead in Christ will be resurrected those who are in the faith

the Ecclesia will join the dead in Christ in the air to be with Yeshua in

the New Jerusalem as it descends A Thousand Years passes by with

Yeshua reigning on the

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throne during that Thousand Years the the devil is locked away Satan is locked

away at the end of that Thousand Years the Bible says he is released and given the authority to uh mess with the

Nations again Yeshua try iphs as a result of that final

war that’s when the Bible says the devil is cast into this Lake of Fire along with the Beast and the false

prophet and then the great white Throne judgment happens what’s the great white Throne judgment the great white Throne

judgment is for all those who were not resurrected at the return of Yeshua

only the faithful in Christ will be resurrected at the return the rest of the world who are not people

of Faith remain in the grave during that time they will come they will be resurrected here at the great white

Throne judgment to be judged so that’s what’s going on here in Revelation 20 I saw a great white throne

and him who sat on it from whose Faith the earth and the heaven fled away and there was found no place for

them and I saw the dead small and great standing before God and books were

opened and another book was open which is The Book of Life and the dead were judged according to their works by the

things which were written in the books the sea gave up the Dead who were in it and death and the grave delivered up the

Dead who were in them and they were judged each one according to his works

then death and the grave were cast into the Lake of Fire this is the second

death and anyone found not written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of

Fire we see again in the next chapter the Cowardly the unbelieving the abominable murderers sexually immoral

sorcerers idolators and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire in

Brimstone which is the second death neeva inquired about the second death

last week here’s what is happening what is the second death all these people who were not in Christ are resurrected to

face the great white Throne judgment they’ll be judged according to their

works will some people in that judgment make it by the Skin of Their Teeth probably others

won’t and those who won’t make it who don’t find their names written in the Book of Life are cast into the Lake of

Fire which lake of fire the very same Lake of Fire that Satan himself was cast

into but the Bible says for them there is a second

death well a second death just like the first death you cease to

exist no more awareness no more Consciousness lights out so the question is how can these

individuals be suffering for eternity in the Lake of Fire if they are

experiencing death Lake of Fire death it’s it’s a it’s a

contradiction they are experiencing the second death so how can they be there for eternity that’s the question that we

have to ask it’s the it’s the devil the Beast and the false prophet who are tormented day and night forever and ever

they don’t experience the second death it’s the hum Humanity it’s humans

who were the the murderers and the liars and the rapists who are cast into that Lake and

experience a second death in other words they they’re tossed into the same Lake that Satan and his angels are

tossed into but they experien death because of that Lake and what we’re

going to see here is that there’s a harsher sentence for some that is a little bit different than the

bunch that we just looked at let me read that real fast in chapter 14 of Revelation the Bible says the third Angel followed them

saying with a loud voice if anyone worships the Beast and His Image and receives his mark on his forehead or on

his hand he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God which is poured

out full strength into the cup of his indignation he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of

the Holy Angels and in the presence of the lamb and the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever and they have

no rest day or night who worship the Beast and His Image and whoever receives the mark of his name

so based on that verse there appears to be two classes of damnation

for those who refuse to love God and follow his ways a second death by

fire but a harsher sentence for those who actively worshiped the Beast and received his Mark they will join the

enemy and his angels along with the Beast to be tormented forever and

ever do you see that so is is is all the LW in Hell forever and ever or I use that word

Loosely of course because we’re talking about what we think is hell is is all the lost in this Lake of

Fire forever and ever no the Bible does say that’s their end but they experience death as a result of

it what is left there forever and ever is Satan his angels the Beast the false

prophet and those who worshiped the Beast and took his

Mark so it’s a little bit different and again I believe that this Lake of

Chapter 12: End times timeline Q&A

Fire is uh some some have speculated let me just put it that way that the image

of gehenna outside of Israel where all the trash and stuff is

burning is what we will see at the end of days there’ll be a New Jerusalem and

a new Earth but just outside of the gates of the New Jerusalem will be this

gehenna or this Lake of Fire that people will literally be able

to gaze upon those inside of it Ed oh sorry I was going to say

Ezekiel and Isaiah both have reference to people being able to gaze upon the

beaten enemies of God uh for eternity so that’s the POS there’s a possibility that that’s the

case uh but is it a dungeon down in the bowels of Earth where you’re going to be living with Satan forever

no the Bible says that those Powers those entities Satan his his his angels

false prophets the beasts will be in this Lake forever and ever with those who worshiped

him Glenn do you have a question yeah so the people that accept the mark are they going to know that they’re

worshiping the Beast or will they unknowingly just accept it because of survival or gain I think both Glenn I

think that there’s come there’s going to come a time that this Mark whatever it is and I happen to believe it’s going to be some kind of DNA tag some kind of DNA

marker uh I think it’s going to be probably positioned as a way to become

superhuman and we’re already seeing that we’re already seeing the Genesis of that in in some places around the world but I

think it’s going to be this thing that the Beast holds over Humanity to become like him oh you think I’m amazing you

can become like me and because the world is the way they are they’re going to jump at it and

they’re going to jump at it out of ignorance because they don’t know the Bible they don’t know the word of God and so they’re going to jump at it in

ignorance and pay the price for it eternally some are going to know exactly

what it is and take it gladly sure I say the bulk of of those people

uh will be the uninformed the uninformed by their own

um mechanisms you know they they’ve not they’ve not studied the Bible they don’t understand and so they’ll be led

astray I’ve got one more question sure could you maybe do a little extra work

or maybe it’s coming show us a timeline of how this go the thousand years and

then the seven years or less you know what I’m saying that stuff confuses me yeah it’s uh it can be challenging for a

lot of people um but it’s it’s to me it’s I’m a visual person too like you

Glenn and uh you know so we have we have the

um Abomination that causes desolation um okay

that that happens when the Beast shows up and that’s going to start a

uh a seven-year tribulation okay trib’s going to come at that time and it’s supposed to be seven

years but it’s also supposed to be cut short for uh those of us in the eklesia

so this will be you know a seven-year period uh but probably more like

a you know three-year period for the faithful now after that is over you have

the arrival of Yeshua okay now by the way um during

this seven year we’ve we’ve we already looked at last the last couple of weeks that we’re going to be in the desert right we’re going to be in the

wilderness waiting for Yeshua during that time and then he comes and then after Yeshua comes he’s going to kick

some major booty around the world against his enemies and then Reign for a thousand

years okay and with with the New Jerusalem Humanity will have another thousand years with Yeshua on the planet

as a uh uh a a government so to speak that he is

a theocracy that he is in in charge of uh and then ask a quick question here so during

that thousand years is there does there continue to be life and death for those that are all in the New Jerusalem or is

it kind of status like we all live for a thousand years we we will have our new bodies at that time those of us in

Christ we’ll have our new bodies but yes death will still be around during that time for those on the

outside okay so the new those who are gathered at is coming the dead in Christ and those who met him in the sky those

will receive their new bodies at that time they have to otherwise they wouldn’t be able to exist in the presence of

God so we get our new bodies at the resurrection and we’ll live with Yeshua in the New Jerusalem for a thousand

years while the rest of the world is happening around us and yeah and I also believe that

lifespans of the human lifespan will increase during that time we we looked at this stuff earlier on in our other

lessons on the New Jerusalem uh but human lifespans will increase during that 1,000 year period okay so here we

are during this Thousand Years Satan is locked up but then at the end of the the Thousand Years Satan is

loosed um and then this is the Thousand Years uh that’s that that’s

ending uh see let just do end here okay now at the

Thousand-Year end Satan is loose to create one more final battle they approach the the the New

Jerusalem uh with all the nations trying to war against Yeshua well guess what Yeshua

wins right I’m sorry just doing this off the cuff Yeshua

wins and then that’s when Revelation 20 happens when all these bad guys are tossed

into the um the the Lake of Fire that is I believe coming from Yeshua his own

robes his own presence and then we have this great white

judgment where the rest of the world who is

judged and then they’re cast into the Lake of Fire and then when that’s all

said and done when all that’s done we have what’s known biblically as what and want to say tell me what happens when

everything’s done what’s it called the New Jerusalem the eth day oh

the eighth day okay and what’s happening what is that that’s another way of saying that’s

when we enter eternity so to speak with

Yeshua the um the new

Earth now my brother Doug Hamp I think I’ve shared this before brother Doug

Hamp seems to believe that when Yeshua returns here that he’s going to bring the new

Earth with him and that during the Thousand-Year Reign the new Earth will be here will’ll be living on the new

Earth and those who remained outside the gates will be able to experience the new Earth for a thousand years that’s

entirely possible I haven’t I haven’t studied that out myself yet I need to figure that out but there’s a possibility that the new Earth will be

here because remember when Yeshua comes he’s going to destroy it it’s going to be burned with fire so will it remain a desolate

volcanic environment for a thousand years or will he restore

it for that Thousand-Year period and that those who will remain those who are still alive outside the

gates will have a thousand years to enjoy the new Earth I don’t know the

answer to that question myself that’s what brother brother Hamp seems to think and he’s pretty brilliant but I want to

study it out myself but getting back to this after all said and done we get to have everything Paradise is here New

Jerusalem is here all judgments been done whoever’s going to be in the Lake of Fire is in the Lake of Fire and we

get to enjoy eternity with God so that’s a very brief timeline Glenn um and I hope

that it uh it helped I have more questions but I’m not going to ask them now I’ll ask you later

well it’s okay you can ask them now well on the time like when Yeshua returns he’s going to be a consuming fire and

all things will be refined and all things will be exposed and what what burns will last and what

doesn’t will be a loss are some people going to

be I’m not sure how to question it will some people not experience the next thousand years when everything’s

refined well on well some people not I think I think it’s difficult to WRA your brain

around uh but when Yeshua returns remember where is he returning to yeah to the Earth to Jerusalem spe

specifically he’s going to touch down amount of Olives right um now here’s some of my here’s the way my

brain thinks does the destruction that his presence

brings Encompass the entire planet or partial of the

planet you know does does it does it wipe out one hemisphere does it wipe out half you know I don’t know no one really

knows this the Bible says that everything will be gone through fire everything will be tested with fire and his presence going to destroy now it

also says that people are going to survive uh you know Isaiah Ezekiel both talk about people climbing out of the

mountains out of the caves after Yeshua uh comes back and they are shamed by

Israel they’re shamed by Ephraim so there is some indication that there will be survivors of yeshua’s

return how many survivors I don’t know is it thousands is it Millions I don’t know it’s it would be a speculation at

best but they will be able to live on outside the

gates during that time now what happens during that time outside the gates well the levitical priesthood will

be resurrected and people will actually be making sacrifices again outside the gates to have their sins

covered they can no longer at this point claim faith in Christ that window is

gone because Christ will be here we’ll be able to see him and so they going to

need to provide have a covering uh for their sins which means the sacrificial system will be

reenacted during that Thousand-Year period and they those people will be the ones that are going to be judged at

Great White the great white Throne judgment now the same time that’s all happening there’s a whole different

bunch of people world leaders and such who are scheming against Yeshua

and that is all going to come ahead come to aead at the end of the Thousand-Year

Reign hey Dad yes sir Garrett um you just mentioned the people that

will crawl out of the mountain I hearing this this consuming fire

couldn’t like I couldn’t help but relate it to numbers and God being dwelt in the Tabernacle and The Uncommon and the clean and the

unclean and and how they had to be obviously clean in order to even be around him um how is there maybe this is

a question for another time but what’s the justification for people like that that that survived that refining fire if

if like faith in Jesus right the elect is what keeps you alive during that

refinement period period how how is it Justified that there are people

that perhaps aren’t in the faith but still survive the refinement is that God’s mercy alone or is that like

because to me I’m like in numbers it was so he’s so incompatible with death and and to me I’m like trying to understand

that is it like a scientifical thing or it’s just incompatible but somehow they are spared from it because of his Mercy

or you know what is that question making itself clear uh sort of uh are you are you referring to the second coming are

you referring to after that’s all done and people come out of the mountains yeah like because he said like

the mountains will melt like Wax and there it’s it’s his fire that destroys the

Earth how how do people survive like you and then you also mentioned that the elect like everyone goes everyone passes

through the fire it’s just not everyone makes it out so how do those that get shamed by Israel and that aren’t in the faith pass through that fire if they

aren’t in the faith they don’t the only reason the only way that they’ll pass through the fire is if they’re lucky enough to escape it by hiding in some

cave somewhere long enough okay so the fire just isn’t isn’t

like all consuming of the earth it’s it sounds like it’s going to be yeah it’s difficult to know the answer how consuming it will be it’s I we don’t I

don’t know if it’s going to be Global or if it’s going to be local or or or what

that would be a guess but we do know that there will be remnants of

humanity still living after second coming so not all humanity is getting

wiped out by the second coming there’s going to be quite a few people that make it through somehow that

event and then it’s going to be like a a Noah moment where the Earth will be

repopulated again um back to you know millions or

billions um so I think humanity is going to be left few in number as a result of the second coming

when I say few I don’t mean eight like Noah but comparatively few you know maybe

millions and then it’s going to start all over again and have a thousand years to grow now how fast can Humanity grow

as a result of a Thousand-Year time period especially if their if their lifespans are elongated I think quite a

bit I think you get back up to the billions pretty fast um and

so those people will face the great white Throne judgment after the Thousand-Year

period some will be people of Faith some won’t thank you now laurian is over

there talking to herself what is she saying clearly has a question like I

feel like i’ never read the Bible before um I mean it’s so different from so much

of what I was taught I’m just trying to wrap my brain around it um so like the Thousand Years and I I want to get into the Bible

and study it out but if I do that right now I won’t be able to tune into this um like there’s no interaction between

us who are in New Jerusalem which will be us like we’ll be there in the New Jerusalem um and those that are outside

the gates correct like it’s like these dystopian movies where there’s a huge wall and you can’t leave and not that we

would want to but I don’t know i’ I’ve I’ve tried to find uh an answer to that question because I’ve had it myself

lauan how much interaction will there be between those of us who have our new bodies on the inside with those who

don’t have their new bodies on the out I don’t know I tend to think the Bible says we’re going to judge the Nations

if we’re going to judge the Nations that means we’re going to have some interaction somehow some way and I almost think that that during that

1,000-year Reign we’re going to be Servants of the most high we’re going to be you know we probably are going to be

interacting with the world in one way or another how what that looks like what’s the logistics of that I don’t know but

the the Bible does seem to let us believe that there’s going to be at least some you interaction it’s not

going to be like uh those who are outside the gates have already made their decision they’re their plight has already been decided

because they didn’t believe in je so I’m just curious not necessarily I mean it sounds like some you know during the

Great White Throne judgment that there are some that will still make it in yeah

so to answer your question Eric yes they’re they’ve made their decision that’s why they’re not inside the gates

right that’s why the the the the wedding at the wedding the guy was thrown out because he didn’t have his clothes on

right the parable that Yeshua taught so yes there are people who have made their decision uh outside the gates however

they’ll have time to repent if they make it through the second coming so if they if they get left behind and they go oh my gosh what have

I done how do I miss this they’ll have time to try to serve God during the

course of their life and then face the white Throne Judgment at the end and is it I mean what

scriptures talk about the basis then for that faith if it’s no longer salvation through

Yeshua is it always salvation through Yeshua right but it’s not because of like it’s not a faith in his

second coming no no no I mean in his in his death and Resurrection because he’s now there you know you said that they’re going to

reinstitute death sacrifice or sin sacrifices and such I mean is it it does it have a different rather than just a

faith in Yeshua is there a different you understand I think it’ll be I think it’ll be an issue of obedience for them

laurian because the Revelation 20 says they are judg according to their Works they can’t claim faith in Christ

because oh he’s right over there I can see the New Jerusalem there he is yeah to have faith in Christ requires a great

deal of effort and patience and belief on our part who are even though we don’t

see him trust in him that’s why the Bible is so clear in so many places

about the importance of our trust and our faith in him even though our eyes don’t see well in that time their eyes

will be able to see it’s undeniable so now it just becomes a matter of will I obey him or not and so for them I believe it’ll be

an issue of obedience does that mean obedience saves no Yeshua is still saves but now that

you see him what are you going to do just like Israel in the desert who saw

him saw him saw him saw him didn’t

obey Ed yes I have a question about the 24 Elders that are around the throne

when did they get there and I for some reason think that they were going to be part of the Judgment of people and I

can’t find anything to support that but that’s what’s in my mind like probably when I read the Bible all the way

through a lot of things stuck but now I can’t find them okay well again um that’s a big

question but I’ll I’ll try to I’ll try to give you a quick answer okay the 24 Elders that we read about in The Book of Revelation was a

vision remember the things that we see in Revelation are both history and

1 hour, 19 minutes, 21 seconds

prophetic okay like the seven churches that’s actual history John’s Vision all

in the future not happening in real time okay that’s a mistake that a lot of people make when they look at John’s

Vision they go oh this is happening in real time no it’s not he’s seeing a vision of the future so these 24 Elders

are they there now no he’s seeing a vision of the future so who are these 24

Elders well there’s a lot of speculation about that um I I personally if you ask me had

a gun in my head I would say it’s the 12 mezc priesthood it’s the 12

apostles okay I I see that there’s 12 12 people that served in the me mzc

priesthood up to Jacob I see that there’s 12 Apostles but there’s really more than that isn’t there M seven you

know there’s there’s there was 14 Apostles ultimately so which of them are

there um Judas probably won’t be there but you know so there’s speculation as

to who these people ultimately are I don’t think the Bible’s clear on exactly who they are I think you have to make

some educated guesses as to who they are but are they there right now no because the there’s been no

Resurrection so they will be there eventually but who they are I don’t I don’t know how to answer that

question okay anybody else brother I have a question

okay brother according to Bible when Heaven gone away Mountain

will be melt so how can Believers or men kind will be survived when there is no value front of

a Yeshua Second Coming mountain and Heaven how Believers or mankind will be

survived are you are you asking how will mankind be able to

survive if if you’re asking how will mankind be able to survive the answer to that is twofold one most of them won’t

many of them will not survive the second coming of Yeshua but the Bible is very clear that men will be

hiding from his return uh in the mountains now when the Bible says the mountains melt does that mean they completely melt down to water

or to Lava probably not they probably do melt but they don’t melt so far down that they the whole world becomes you

know like the sun there’ll be some melting at his presence but they’ll still be able to hide

you know in the United States oif there’s there’s very huge underground

caves um you know military establishments that go way deep under uh mountains in Colorado as a matter of

fact over there with laurine and er um and there’s there’s many of those around the planet I would I would dare

say that every government has some type typ of Disaster

Response cave underground facility where they can hide in the event of an atomic

you know War those places like bunker yeah bunkers will be able to hide thousands of people thousands during the

second coming and I think it’s probably those who will be coming out and and

starting the population over again okay all right thank you brother you bet

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